Kated Travel Podcast: Stephen Bailey and Lisa Niver


Kated Travel Episode 162 – What To Do When You Can’t Travel, with Lisa Niver and host, Stephen Bailey

Stephen Bailey and Lisa Niver

Thank you to Kated for highlighting my interview in Unorthodox Travel:

Kated Travel Podcast

What do you do when your number one passion is taken away? What do you do when you always travel, and then you can’t travel? It’s easy to be despondent during the great pause that is Covid-19. But some travellers see opportunity and positivity in the situation. Lisa Niver from We Said Go Travel brings her positive energy and great advice in today’s episode. She gives tips on how to use this time productivity and stay upbeat for when travel can return.

We talked about:


Solomon Islands

YouTube Videos with 1.3M views

Galapagos Islands


Lisa on KTLA TV in Los Angeles in her classroom:

Lisa on KTLA TV talking about travel–first segment about Napa Valley

Lisa on KTLA TV talking about Ogden, Utah: skiing and where the East and West Coast sides of the train met:

Lisa’s articles for Teen Vogue, AARP, American Airlines, Delta Sky, United Airlines, Wharton magazine, Smithsonian Magazine and many other places!!

Lisa Niver is a winner at the 2020 62nd Southern California Journalism Awards!

Lisa wants to go Scuba diving: bucket list: Great Barrier Reef, Raja Ampat, Indonesia

Join me at Gardens of the Queen, Diving in Cuba

Lisa’s bucket list: Antarctica (her final continent), Brazil, Iceland and Mallorca!

Lisa is writing a memoir! Learn about the journey to her book on Undomesticated magazine:

Lisa’s 50 challenges before 50: mountain biking, sky diving and skiing with Jennifer who is blind and diving with bull sharks.

Lisa Niver working for Princess Cruises
Lisa Niver working for Princess Cruises
Photo By Matt Payne
Matt Payne took this photo of Lisa Niver, founder of We Said Go Travel, in Kenya in July 2018

Thank you to Stephen Bailey and Kated Travel for inviting me on your show! It was great to talk about what you can do when you can’t travel!

You can also listen on LISTENNOTES:


Lisa Ellen Niver

Lisa Ellen Niver is an award-winning travel expert who has explored 102 countries and six continents. A graduate of the University of Pennsylvania, she worked on cruise ships for seven years and backpacked for three years in Asia. She is the founder of the website WeSaidGoTravel which is read in 235 countries and was named #3 on Rise Global’s top 1,000 Travel Blogs. Niver is represented by Chip MacGregor of MacGregor Literary, Inc. Look for her memoir in Fall 2023 from Post Hill Press/Simon and Schuster. With more than 150,000 followers across social media, she has hosted Facebook Live for USA Today 10best, is verified on Twitter and listed on IMDb, and is the Social Media Manager for the Los Angeles Press Club. You can find Lisa Niver talking travel on broadcast television at KTLA TV Los Angeles, Satellite Media Tours, The Jet Set TV and Orbitz travel webisodes as well as her YouTube channel, where her WeSaidGoTravel videos have over 1.7 million views. As a journalist, Niver has interviewed Deepak Chopra, Olympic medalists, and numerous bestselling authors and been invited to both the Oscars and the United Nations. She has been a judge for the Gracie Awards for the Alliance of Women in Media, and has run 15 travel competitions on her website, publishing over 2,500 writers and photographers from 75 countries. For her print and digital stories as well as her television segments, she has been awarded three Southern California Journalism Awards and two National Arts and Entertainment Journalism Awards and been a finalist twenty times.   Niver has published more than 2000 articles, in more than three dozen magazines and journals including National Geographic, Wired, Teen Vogue, HuffPost Personal, POPSUGAR, Ms. Magazine, Luxury Magazine, Smithsonian, Sierra Club, Saturday Evening Post, AARP, AAA Explorer Magazine, American Airways, Delta Sky, enRoute (Air Canada), Hemispheres, Jewish Journal, Myanmar Times, BuzzFeed, Robb Report, Scuba Diver Life, Ski Utah, Trivago, Undomesticated, USA Today, TODAY, Wharton Magazine, and Yahoo. Awards National Arts and Entertainment Journalism Awards 2021 Winner: Book Critic: Ms. Magazine “Untamed: Brave Means Living From the Inside Out” 2019 Winner: Soft News Feature for Film/TV: KTLA TV “Oscars Countdown to Gold with Lisa Niver” 2019 Finalist for: Soft News, Business/Music/Tech/Art Southern California Journalism Awards 2022 Finalist: Book Criticism 2021 Winner: Technology Reporting 2021 Finalist: Book Criticism 2020 Winner: Print Magazine Feature: Hemispheres Magazine, “Painter by the Numbers, Rembrandt” 2020 Finalist: Online Journalist of the Year, Activism Journalism, Educational Reporting, Broadcast Lifestyle Feature 2019 Finalist: Broadcast Television Lifestyle Segment for “Ogden Ski Getaway” 2018 Finalist: Science/Technology Reporting, Travel Reporting, Personality Profile 2017 Winner: Print Column “A Journey to Freedom over Three Passovers” Social Media Presence YouTube Channel: We Said Go Travel (1.7 million views) Short form video:TikTok, Instagram Reels, Facebook Reels, YouTube Shorts Twitter: lisaniver (90,000 followers) Instagram: lisaniver (24,000 followers) Pinterest: We Said Go Travel (20,000 followers and over 70,000 monthly views) Facebook: lisa.niver (5,000 followers); We Said Go Travel (3,000 followers) LinkedIn: lisaellenniver (9000 contacts)

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