Kated Travel Podcast: Stephen Bailey and Lisa Niver


Kated Travel Episode 162 – What To Do When You Can’t Travel, with Lisa Niver and host, Stephen Bailey

Stephen Bailey and Lisa Niver

Thank you to Kated for highlighting my interview in Unorthodox Travel:

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What do you do when your number one passion is taken away? What do you do when you always travel, and then you can’t travel? It’s easy to be despondent during the great pause that is Covid-19. But some travellers see opportunity and positivity in the situation. Lisa Niver from We Said Go Travel brings her positive energy and great advice in today’s episode. She gives tips on how to use this time productivity and stay upbeat for when travel can return.

We talked about:


Solomon Islands

YouTube Videos with 1.3M views

Galapagos Islands


Lisa on KTLA TV in Los Angeles in her classroom:

Lisa on KTLA TV talking about travel–first segment about Napa Valley

Lisa on KTLA TV talking about Ogden, Utah: skiing and where the East and West Coast sides of the train met:

Lisa’s articles for Teen Vogue, AARP, American Airlines, Delta Sky, United Airlines, Wharton magazine, Smithsonian Magazine and many other places!!

Lisa Niver is a winner at the 2020 62nd Southern California Journalism Awards!

Lisa wants to go Scuba diving: bucket list: Great Barrier Reef, Raja Ampat, Indonesia

Join me at Gardens of the Queen, Diving in Cuba

Lisa’s bucket list: Antarctica (her final continent), Brazil, Iceland and Mallorca!

Lisa is writing a memoir! Learn about the journey to her book on Undomesticated magazine:

Lisa’s 50 challenges before 50: mountain biking, sky diving and skiing with Jennifer who is blind and diving with bull sharks.

Lisa Niver working for Princess Cruises
Lisa Niver working for Princess Cruises
Photo By Matt Payne
Matt Payne took this photo of Lisa Niver, founder of We Said Go Travel, in Kenya in July 2018

Thank you to Stephen Bailey and Kated Travel for inviting me on your show! It was great to talk about what you can do when you can’t travel!

You can also listen on LISTENNOTES:


Lisa Ellen Niver

Lisa Niver is an award-winning travel expert who has explored 102 countries on six continents. This University of Pennsylvania graduate sailed across the seas for seven years with Princess Cruises, Royal Caribbean, and Renaissance Cruises and spent three years backpacking across Asia. Discover her articles in publications from AARP: The Magazine and AAA Explorer to WIRED and Wharton Magazine, as well as her site WeSaidGoTravel. On her award nominated global podcast, Make Your Own Map, Niver has interviewed Deepak Chopra, Olympic medalists, and numerous bestselling authors, and as a journalist has been invited to both the Oscars and the United Nations. For her print and digital stories as well as her television segments, she has been awarded three Southern California Journalism Awards and two National Arts and Entertainment Journalism Awards and been a finalist twenty-two times. Named a #3 travel influencer for 2023, Niver talks travel on broadcast television at KTLA TV Los Angeles, her YouTube channel with over 2 million views, and in her memoir, Brave-ish, One Breakup, Six Continents and Feeling Fearless After Fifty.

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